Interview with Alexander Stoddart, an exclusive reprint from the archives of Manner of Man Magazine



Interview with Alexander Stoddart


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This exclusive interview with Alexander Stoddart, Sculptor in Ordinary to Her Majesty the Queen in Scotland DL and Fellow of the Royal Society of Edinburgh was conducted by Nicola Linza and Cristoffer Neljesjö in Scotland during April 2012.


As it surely is not as simplistic as it may seem to some, why did you become a sculptor?

I became a sculptor for no reason; that is to say, the imperative that drove me to this strange profession was not hypothetical (an “if/ then” imperative) but something in fact categorical (that is according to a feeling that I “ought” to do and be this, regardless of the outcome). This is an important distinction of motivation for it comes to shed light on why it was that the Monument became such an important form in my life. It was all born in an overwhelming childhood conception of “duty discharged” which alighted on me at exactly the same time as my first aesthetic feelings arose. So you might say that as a child I had innocent experience of the link that Kant talks about when he shows that beauty rhymes with duty; that aesthetics and ethics are not merely allied, but perhaps even, at kernel, the one thing.

The strong sense of the artistic and the good being connected was really brought to the fore in my infancy by the existence of a small monument at the foot of our road in the Renfrewshire village of Elderslie. This little structure stands at the site of the birthplace of the national hero of the Scots, Sir William Wallace, Guardian of Scotland and Knight of Elderslie (c.1274-1305). This is a memorial not to the rough fellow known in the cinema as “Braveheart” but rather to a petty-nobleman, probably of Welsh extraction, who rose to oppose a tyrant and fought not for the interests of any particular House, but for a broad idea embodied in the Scottish Crown. This purpose was always a fascination to me, for it was vague and very generalist; not what the Americans would call “instrumentalist.” At this time I began to picture Wallace not as a figure naturally seen on the battlefield, but rather pictured in the sequestered grove by an evening light, in deep repose – a typification I much later discovered I shared with Robert Burns in his imaginings of the hero. Thinking of Wallace in this way is an old-fashioned thing to do. Nowadays one is required to think of this extraordinary individual as a forward-looking thruster fully committed to the multiplication of wind-farms over the Scottish Borders and never tiring of punching the air – which is to say that the contemporary view of him is deep-fried in philistinism. Sentimentality, said Oscar Wilde, is the bank-holiday of cynicism. The modern picture of Wallace is thus corrupted.


Later I remember I had to account to a playmate for my religious affiliations. Being in the West of Scotland it was only a matter of time before someone asked me whether I was a Protestant or a Catholic. I didn’t know which I was, so I ran in to ask my mother. “You’re a Protestant, dear,” she replied in a matter-of-fact manner, not untainted with conviction. I ran out to tell the boy, whose name, incidentally, was John Coulter, but he had run off, so I was left in solitude to face up to the heartbreaking fact that I “was” a thing whose name positively repulsed me. This was the very first aesthetic decision I remember making; that I wanted, on account of the sound of the name of it alone, to be counted a Catholic. I stood on the wall, nearly in tears, and shouted to the empty street “I am a Catholic!”, while waving my wooden sword aloft. This was an early exercise in formalism, for not an iota of knowledge was present around the question to condition my response. For all I knew being a Protestant could have referred to my left or right-handedness, or my short or long-sightedness. What’s in a name? Well, there’s a sound – and this is not entirely without significance – if one is a man of taste and sensibility.

I became a painter first, because I discovered that my aptitude for music was on the back foot owing to a difficulty reading music, the sight of which I loathed. This difficulty evaporated when I was about twenty years old, so that I became a rather capable sight-reader on the piano in due course. Not so in childhood. I turned to painting because of a rather sudden and powerful growth of interest in Paris and the demi-monde of the late 19th century. Shortly I forgot about the context (the idea of the bars, brothels and studios) and became enchanted with the pictures, so I took to painting out of doors in Paisley, trudging the length of it looking for views that looked marginally “Impressionist.” One afternoon, while painting in a field next to the main road, a man standing in a small crowd at a bus-stop shouted over to me “On yer’sel’ Vincent!” which, to translate from the Paisley tongue means “Carry on doing as you are, in full, if unacknowledged, justification, Vincent!”

At art school in Glasgow I discovered that the painting department was run by a tyrant called Donaldson – a heavy-hander unlikely to be kind to my burgeoning desire to paint like Ingres – so I entered the sculpture department since it was widely held to be the easiest-going. Then I felt that childhood surge again, and recovered my interest in the Monument. But it was to be a very long time before I was asked to make one, and when I was it turned out to be a disaster!

What I loved, and love, about the Monument is that its subject is not “now”, but “then”. And the Monument survives all the “nows” it goes through to exist in many other “thens”, extending into the very distant future, far away from us. It links the past with the future and in the process demonstrates the strange fatuity of the “now”. This is why the Monument was much castigated in the recent past, and it also explains why political leftists (left-liberals) have such a dyspeptic attitude to the Monument or statue. It refuses to take part in the “dialectic” but rather postulates something immutable and lasting. Its mind, so to speak, is concentrated on the distance, which is blue in colour. But contemporary art is focussed on the near-to-hand, which is the colour of blood. Because of thoughts like these; because I had a tendency to look to the distant hills, to imagine the struggles of eight hundred years before as more real than the concerns of the present, and because I instinctually pictured a warrior at rest rather than in action, I feel it was dispositionally necessary that I became a sculptor of monuments, and that the classical tradition of sculpture should rise, eventually, as my guide and master.



Can you describe the day you realised Contemporary art was a complete waste of your time, a one trick pony, nothing more than junk?

I remember a particular day when I realised I had done something wrong in the art line. It was at art school.

I had completed an abstract composition made of pop-riveted sheet steel, as part of my course in the second year. Anxious to please, I had expended some time on this thing and believed myself to be thoroughly whacked as a result of the full week’s working on it. My tutors gave it a resounding cheer and were absolutely thrilled with my “almost arch-like” “piece”. (Honestly, arched pieces are ten-a-penny in art schools, still to this day, as are face-casts of poxy students’ backsides and circles of sand disposed upon the floor. And when one hears a new cacophony bearing a wistful title like “Outreach” freshly commissioned by the BBC from some young composer, it is invariably described as being in the form of an arch. The arch is favoured because, as the old Hindu proverb says, it “never sleeps.” An arch stands because it is perpetually falling, and this makes it greatly appreciated in modernity, with all its thrust-imperatives. Similarly, while trabeated classical architecture is forever suspect – on account of its stillness – Gothic styles are more generally excused, and this is because the struggle to stand is so evidently written all over their structures. The buttress is always appreciated; the flying buttress positively adored – because we like to fly. In America there is a great love of the arch in conservative circles, and this worries me, I must say. The great Glasgow architect Alexander Thomson indicated that the arch is the embodied form of a cruelty of outlook, which is why the Romans loved it - but then they also had the self-knowledge to employ it in serried rank in the cruellest building they ever constructed – the Coliseum. I digress!) My pop-rivet job thrilled them, thrilled me, and we were all thrilled with ourselves. Then, on the way home to thrill my parents with the news of my success, I paused in front of the cast, near the entrance of the GSA building, of the Apollo Belvedere. He was seen there, recast a thousand times, stalking through the ether, his nostrils flaring in a barely suppressed anger; the purest object one could conceive and as such a perfect anomaly in the canon of Occidental sculpture. He had just slain the python, which could be seen tightening itself around the tree-trunk by his leg, and was thus showing how the Patriarchy was now established and the present vanquished – for the Python represented the old Matriarchal order – of immense duration – to which we have now almost returned; the Occident was something that lasted about four thousand years and has finished in our time. And as I looked at this object I began to thrill in a new and upsetting way, so that I felt not only uncomfortable being so impressed, but also rather ashamed at my having been so recently impressed by something of mine own – a small thing, to be sure! The god seemed to be saying to me “Try me! Your accomplishments so far are beneath contempt.” I think that was the first time I experienced this tremendous jolt of objective understanding in the art line. It was the voice of an inner daemon, which the moderns would call conscience. In any case, it was the very opposite of “self-empowerment.” I was slaughtered on the spot. Shortly after this I had the first of the Great Depressions that have been such a pest in my life and career. There was no alternative but to attempt to work towards this manner of sculpture and to abandon what I appeared to be good at. So you could say that my disillusion with the contemporary in art was a sudden seeing of self; I saw myself before that image and the prospect was not good. Interesting that it should have been an image of Apollo; on the lintel of the Tholos (his temple) at Delphi there is inscribed the words “Know Thyself”. He is the deity of Enlightenment.

My tutors were very alarmed that I should try to make sculpture so backward-looking, but they were kind and even conscientious people and so I was not positively obstructed in the impossible task I had set myself. The obstruction came later, once what I was doing was beginning to stick. But I quickly noticed that the act of making a figure in any continent (that is un-distorted, handsome and proportioned) way, with any evidence of technical skill (not to speak of symbolical meaning) was likely to draw adverse comments. At first I thought this was simple resentment – that someone in the “club” was inclined to betray the imperium of mediocrity by doing something well, according to standards up to which none could reasonably be expected to match. Such standards were to be dismissed as “irrelevant” because they were in the past. But for me these standards were a kind of reproach. “What’s the ‘Resident Sculptor’ up to today?” sneered an astoundingly attractive female student one morning, as I was wrestling with a superior iliac process. Then some toilet graffiti appeared advising Poland to watch out, since “Sandy’s coming.” It was a time when no Student Representative Council was happy unless it had some Nazis near to hand. There being few to appear in Glasgow they had recourse to turning upon a feeble, specky, nervous wreck in the sculpture department of Glasgow School of Art! It is true that, far from modelling myself upon Engels, Marx or Lenin, I had rather chosen the attire, manners and enthusiasms of the only proper King of his century, Ludwig the Second of Bavaria (God rest his soul) – yet this seemed extreme. I was at the time attempting to sculpt a little like Rodin, the Frenchman’s style being manageable and careless. If one could not manage a hand, or an arm, one simply truncated the work at that point! It was the kind of sculpture that would have gotten me into a camp – but it smacked of the West, still, and this as enough to turn the Soviets at the GSA against me.

It was not, however, just “simple resentment”. A great friend of mine, the greatest living architectural historian Professor James Stevens Curl of Hollywood near Belfast, once asked me in a moment of despair the no-doubt rhetorical question “Why are Modernists all such odious people?” I was in no condition to answer this, being terribly drunk at the time, but the query stuck, and over the years I’ve gone some way, in my thoughts and digressions, to account for this effect – of the seriously obnoxious, contemporary-art-type person. It has become a cliché, and as such must be attended to – for the cliché is a kind of smoke to indicate fire. (In the same way we have to ask why it is that the clichéd image of the scientist – a kind of “Brains” type , with a certain look, a spectrum of manners and tremendous, if unexpected sexual ambition – has such a strong hold over the popular imagination.) Why are modernists such odious people? I have come to see, quite clearly, that the reason for this is to be found in the field of metaphysics. It is a startling effect to see how, when metaphysics is even mentioned, there arises a sort of world-scale shuffling in the seat and an awkward protestation of hurry to get on elsewhere, or an altogether too quick burst of dismissive laughter, or even a flat refusal of any further talk in this line. This must be because something about the world is in danger of being said, when metaphysics is the talk. The same thing happens when religious questions arise.

Religion is only metaphysics illustrated for children. Yet metaphysics are interesting, especially to young men. The question (Berkeley’s single idea) as to whether there is a sound in the forest when a tree falls unobserved is often the single most compelling conundrum that many a boy of fourteen hears, but his wonder at this is quickly stamped out and he will be observed positively giving up on it, or developing an actual detestation of the enquiry and a shame at ever having made it. With brusque tones he will command himself to “get real.” If he gets a girlfriend he will learn that nothing is more liable to bring out the rolling-pin than such a line of speculation. But I believe that the problem of the typical disposition of the Modernist can be accounted for in respect of this. A traditionalist is someone who never entirely gives up on the “no object without subject” line of epistemology (no sound without a listener). A Modernist is one who cannot abide the implications of this, for it gives rise to a suspicion that the world, which includes as a kind of central sun the material being of the subject, is in fact an illusion. Modernists like the world to be real, for they want to “intervene” in it. If it were a phantasm, they cry, then to what avail my projects? But traditionalism, or in its social manifestation conservatism, has a proper and scrupulous pessimism about the world, as a Veil of Maya (illusion) concealing the noumenal truth that can only be perceived once the conditions of time and space have been abolished. To put this more clearly, the Modernist loves life and believes the world good. The traditionalist sees life as a gigantic error of judgement but admires the way that culture has come, over the few millennia in play, to mitigate the forms of this ghastly cosmos in institutions of dignity and compassion, in established manners, cultivations of all sorts, restrictions upon behaviour, self-denials in every field of human and inter-species intercourse - and of course the pursuit of the redeeming redundancies, by which I mean academic study, scientific enquiry (compromised owing to its applicability) and above all art. Modernism is to be understood as art in an optimistic guise. But art itself, if it were proper, is life-denying. This is an extremely hard idea to accommodate, since we are indentured to life and think very highly of it (it must be good since we are in it). But there is absolutely no doubt that the young men gathered in a threatening mob can be more easily dispersed by the simple playing of Mozart at them than the work of any water-cannon can do, and this effect is only a demonstration that the Will-to-live, which runs strong in young men, feels itself dwindle and weaken in the face of such beauty, and so this same Will draws the youths away from this threat to its dominion as a matter of urgency. Art works upon the Will-to-live as Kryptonite works upon Superman. The Modernist dreads the narcosis of art, so he made a simulative alternative to its heady potion during the last century; something whose ugliness would forever prevent it having the sedative effect of the Great Tradition, whose position it came, so thoroughly, to usurp. Modernism is a sign, then, of Health; a dialectical-materialist doctrine with which Nature (who conceived and sustains it) is very proud.

 

You are staunchly critical of Modernism (and Contemporary art,) you have also been known to scorn so-called "public art" using the brilliant description that it “makes you want to search for a glass of whisky and a revolver," as a number of men feel the same what do you think is the ultimate solution, if there is one.
 
And yet, after having said all this about Modernism, I consider myself a Modernist – but in the context of a vast application of the term extending miles beyond the pokey wee official area to which usually it is confined. For in truth there are really two kinds of Modernism to be uncovered in the space of the last two and a half centuries, and it is to the first and largest of these that I belong and to which, in my small way, I contribute. This is the Modernism that was born in neo-classicism and has, as its great central titan, the mighty Richard Wagner. It begins in Scotland with the explosion of the Ossianic poetry in the 1760s and ends here too, in the death of the poet Hugh MacDiarmid in 1978. Overlapping this colossal span of accomplishment, beginning in the early years of the last century there is the opposing rainbow, coloured not in opalescent tints but having the hue of the New Jersey Turnpike on a grey day. It begins with Marcel Duchamp’s Urinal and ends in Tracey Emin’s Bed and if followed to its end renders up a crock – but not of gold. It is best to have nothing to do with this species of Modernism. It was hired directly to countermand the discoveries of the 19th century, which was the greatest century of all in the miserable history of the world. Something simply had to be done to stop what had been happening, quite against the trend – and look at the success of it! This “second-wave” modernism has been as successful as Japanese Knotweed; a veritable shark in the tank. Why? Because, as I said before, it has Nature on its side.

During the real dog-days of my career, when official oppositionism to what I was doing was at its most vicious, I noticed that the really grave crime that I seemed to be committing as a representational artist consisted in my attempt to imitate not only styles of the past (I am an avowed eclecticist, working in many different idioms, just like an architect), but in fact more generally because I was trying to do work that was “figural” as it is called in America. Even today I am often presumed to be in alliance with artists who are routinely described as “figural”, simply because they paint or sculpt in observational reference to the human form, or to forms visible elsewhere in the world. “Figural” is often opposed to “Contemporary” as a matter of course. I encounter many pple making the most atrocious figure-sculpture who believe themselves to be quite on my side where in fact I should rather bed down with Donald Judd than be counted one of them. But this ignorant confusion, and also the censure that the representational artist will still encounter if he brings his work to any level of accomplishment, actually indicates something interesting about a primal anxiety circulating around the question of imitative art, as it also goes some way to explain the rise of abstractionism around a century ago.

Well before Socrates, the philosopher Heraclitus said something, which we can recover in a fragment – one that, of all his fragments, gets the least attention. For me it is the most profound thing he ever uttered, and it simply was this: “Nature loves to hide.” Everybody ran off in a froth to expand upon “The Road Up is the same as the Road Down” (wow!), “War is King and Father of All” (yes, and?), and “One cannot step into the same haircut twice.” These flip assertions dwindle into insignificance in comparison with “Nature loves to hide.” Now Popper traces a line of mischief extending down from Heraclitus to the dictators of the twentieth century in his “The Open Society and its Enemies” and on that line of disgrace we find Plato firmly established, with his Republic – originally a postulation of experimental tone, but one latterly brought out like a beast nearly to destroy civilisation. In that Republic there is a proscription of imitative art as a kind of lie about a lie (according to the Theory of Forms, where what appears in Nature is a poor representation of the Ideal). Plato, as Bertrand Russell said, is “Quite at ease on Zion,” and so it is through the Academy that the first link between the iconophobic cultures of the Middle East and the Western tradition is formed. We had, in Sparta, a little balsa-wood model of what such an art-free society might amount to, and Plato admired the State of Lycurgus as any malcontent admires the “other.” He couldn’t have coped with an afternoon there, not least because of the absence of the very thing he most treasured in fact, which was, indeed, art. And then there were the hard beds. Throughout the run of theoretical Puritanism, right through the Middle Ages, the Reformation, the Enlightenment (to some certain degree), into the epoch of abstractionism and now into the zone of Science-worship, there has been as a constant idea that the artist who paints or sculpts in imitation of Nature is somehow either mad, bad or dangerous to know, and that he must necessarily experience “struggle” and hardship, and end in penury and suicide. It seems that there is an industry of dissuasion surrounding him; his typification is resoundingly negative. A mother bites her nails to hear of her son’s intention to become a painter; a father threatens to cut the boy off to save him from this fate worse than death. Again, the cliché is informative. I faced great disapproval when I tried to model continent images of the human form, back in the 1970s; some people actually pleaded with me, for my own good, to turn to the abstractionist side. Whence this wringing of hands?

The answer comes from a story told in the Second Sura of the Koran – and more commonly encountered, in our culture, in Exodus. Here, prominent in Hebrew mythology, is the episode that really explains the entire matter of Modernism’s triumph during the closing years of Western Civilisation.

After much wandering in the wilderness, Moses (an Egyptian, incidentally; Freud’s “Moses and Monotheism” shows this - a really very brilliant book which ought to be disentangled from the psycho-garbage in the rest of his oeuvre) – Moses halts at the foot of Sinai to go up to speak to God. The poor Children of Israel, marched to and fro by this terrible individual in a perpetuum of movement, are glad to find ease and so seek first of all to build a little altar. They put down foundations. Then they seek to adorn this with a form – of a Calf, cast from molten metal. You know the story. Then, because they are pleased and somewhat astounded to see something so lasting and still after all the forward-going – and what is more, able to show a moving thing ( a calf) standing absolutely motionless -  they seek to celebrate this by dancing around it in a circle. Moses comes down the mountain, sees this and commands his enforcers, his Levites, to arrest the dancers, to force them to grind the calf into dust and to make a soup of it for them all to drink (you had better believe this!). Then Moses orders the slaughter of the three thousand of them. For it said on God’s fairly restrictive brief that one was to make no representation of any living thing. Three thousand men, women and children. All because of a sculpture. Furthermore, away down the list of the Commandments there is the small matter of the sixth; “Thou shalt not kill.” This proves that making sculpture is worse than murder – to the Mosaic mentality! Given that this is all symbolical, how then do we read this strange story? Here goes: God is Mother Nature. He loves to hide (Heraclitus) because he declines to give his name when he ‘phones Moses from the Burning Bush, merely saying in that annoying way some of your friends employ at the start of a call, “Hello, it’s me.” Bossy people, short on compassion and especially wilful children just cannot get the hang of saying their own names for, as solipsists, they believe names to be things merely for the labelling of others. They themselves they believe to be fundamental. “I am that I am,” say God to Moses. Nature loves to hide. Moses, symbolically, is Mother Nature’s avatar. Life, as Aristotle said, is primarily embodied in movement, and it is the motive aspect of Moses that makes him God come down to earth, specifically to walk on earth. He dies before the Promised Land is reached – most importantly, for he cannot be suffered to become settled. He is like a pop song that stands shy of the concluding tonic chord, but seeks to fade out instead, giving the impression of perpetuity. The grave of Moses (it exists somewhere) is a concept that is extraordinarily hard to entertain. In the story, the Children of Israel stand as incipient full-humans, constantly in danger of lapsing into civilisation and settlement, from which fate they must be saved. The calf is their lotus, the dance their distraction. When dancing, one cannot speak, so now they are dumb-struck, so next the dialectic is silenced in this voodoo. All very dangerous. Next they will be giving up on procreation and becoming like the noble Panda, or choosing to stay indoors to practise piano-scales, rather than play football outside with their chums. But above all the purest outrage is that infernal Calf. How dare they show nature? How dare they look long and hard at it, prosecute and discover things about it, fix and typify it, clinch and reproduce it! You know, I am not making this up, Nic. Having made many a portrait bust of many different sitters I occasionally come across one who, at the end of the job, turns terribly nasty. Carlyle did it to G.F. Watts and Napoleon did it to Canova. One can always predict who is likely to turn this way, simply from the cool observation of their type. It also is a reaction, controversially to say, that is heralded in their facial features. And the better the work the more the fury.

One important point to raise in this area is the question of the Commandments themselves. As Schopenhauer said, “the word is the handmaiden of the concept”; so it is that this story of the wrath of Moses also tells us something profound about the central position of Conceptualism in the second-wave Modernism of which I am so critical. For in the story we encounter a model of art being opposed by text, in the most explicit manner possible. This is merely an image of conceptualism squaring up to perceptualism; conceptualism defying art, in fact. Also, what Moses is carrying in his tablets is terribly “issue-based”; finger-wagging, proscriptive and a general pain for the most – and where it can be accommodated in decent society we see ample transgression of its precepts everywhere to hand amongst the Elders whose names and deeds are recited in Church, of all places. Then one final, allegorical detail; the question of the Horns that are supposed to be seen rising out of Moses’ head as he descends the Mountain in his rage. Now, although these have been airbrushed out of scripture and no end of philologists and etymologists have been hired to insist that a mis-translation of the original Hebrew made “horns” out of “rays”,  yet I am unimpressed by this – for the presence of horns upon the head of Moses makes perfect allegorical sense in the circumstances. For just as Moses is seen opposing a work of art with a screed of text, so he is seen opposing sculptured horns (on the calf) with real horns, sprouting from his head. This goes a long way in explaining the relationship in conceptual art to the cult of the found object (as opposed to the depicted object, in a fine still-life, for instance, or in a careful sculpture). Recently, when looking at a very lovely picture by the alcoholic Glasgow painter Stuart Park, a thundering philistine Yorkshire woman came up to me and protested that, if she wanted to see ‘ydrangea she’d want ter see in ‘gaaden. (To translate from the Yorkshire – “If I wanted to see a hydrangea I’d want to see it in my garden.”) And King Agesilaus of Sparta, trying to revive the Institutions of Lycurgus in the late years of Spartan decline, refuses to hear the performance of a man who has come to the city to perform his imitations of bird-song. “Why should I listen to a buffoon when I can hear the nightingale herself?” he grumbles.

What I have been trying to demonstrate in the above tower of words is that the fundamentals of what we call Modernism are to be found in the primal story of Western culture – and it is all about opposing representation. But the actual triumph of Western Culture was achieved in defiance of that clampdown and from this, we can describe Modernismus as in reality a real Teacher’s Pet and Traditionalism as a Right Royal Rebel. I mean, there is reason to regard the official art of our time as very tame indeed. It seeks to collaborate with the primal tenets of Nature’s plan as laid down by Moses, where art (on the other hand) is like Steve McQueen; never out of the Cooler (and also tremendously cool).

Which is a little more about public art. It is a phenomenon of the second half of the twentieth century, and it always means art of a certain type. For instance, no-one ever refers to the “public art” we find standing in Florence in Orcagna’s Loggia, nor to the “public art” we see among the ruins of Delos or Athens. Public art is, in fact, a form of the private art of the contemporist imperium simply foisted upon the unhappy populace. It is naturally caged up in the white-wall gallery penitentiary, such as we find down by the Meat-packing district of Manhattan, or in those slim loins we call Cork and Bond Streets in London. In the 1970s, I suppose, the contemporists got restive because their war on culture was not being won, and they wished to make a greater impact. They began to arrange for their private works to be let out into the public realm. With the growth of motorways and by-passes, there arose a great many places where this rubbish could be sited – places we pass through at speed and don’t care about ruining. So far so good – yet in the ‘90s these “interventions” began to close in on town centres. My own town of Paisley suffered terribly badly from this. Horrible glass panels with embedded skeins of thread were placed at “strategic” points throughout the centre which had been “identified” by a squad of public-art promoting mandarins from Edinburgh – during a morning’s visit. This rubbish went up and proved, so the mandarins and some of their dupes in local government insisted, that Paisley was “forward-looking”. But the general public, knowing that this sort of art goes up in places we don’t care about (see above) assumed that there was, then, no longer anything in Paisley centre for which to care – and so the moral and fiscal decline into civic chaos got its final effective shove. I have been trying to reverse this for twenty years, but working in Paisley is harder than working in central London.

You must be certain that by “public", in “Public Art”, I mean not something locational, but rather something to do with sensibility. In Ancient Greece, where the social foundation was fundamentally consensual and everything was done in some sort of agora or other (everything male, that is) the notion of privacy was reserved for the shameful and the idiotic (and, unfortunately, the female; the Greeks made their women wear the burka, never forget.) We have a surviving sense of this in the use of our word “idiosyncratic.” It means eccentric and belonging to one alone, rather than being “ours.” This is why, on a level of etymology, it is so criminally inappropriate to describe something by Richard Serra, for instance, or Claes Oldenberg or Duane Hansen as being “public” simply because it exists in a place passed through by the people. It is (I mean IS in an existential way) purely as the outcome of an individual’s imaginings, calculated to be unique, instantly identifiable as to authorship and to not belong. In this way it makes its impact, much as a demented person makes his impact on a bus queue or other location where people are trapped. These kinds of work are strictly idiotic, in the Greek sense, because they are private to the artist concerned; his business alone. When, of course, the time comes to make a sale, then many people claim it is their business too! And on hearing of the colossal sums of money that are raised in homage to these pauperous objects and effects, many other people join in the business and follow along like groupies in the wake of the Rolling Stones during their vitality. But a truly public work, like the Apollo Belvedere for instance, exists in the large world, authorless except for the guiding hand of tradition and valueless because priceless; any number of dollars attached to it would be nearly a “modal irrelevancy” as Michael Oakeshotte (check the spelling here) put it. In contemporism, and in Public Art, the money is fundamental, either in the proof of a work’s worth, or in the fury expressed at its erection. Shortly everybody will be talking about kidney-machines, and the argument will be forgotten in the cash-accountancy.

The vast majority of the works I have made in my long and catastrophic career exists in streets and squares, in lobbies or on the facades of buildings. They are passed by every day by perhaps tens of thousands of people. I try, as best as I am able, to make these things terribly discreet, so that they are hardly noticed, and nothing gives me greater pleasure than to stand incognito (italics) and watch people hurry past them on their way to work, or to whatever deed of compassion or wickedness they are intending, paying them not the slightest regard. For there is a happy symmetry at work here; they pay no attention to the statue precisely as the statue pays no attention to them. In this tremendous nexus of oblivion a real treasure of conduct is to be found. Our age is so revoltingly agglutinative and horribly “interactive” that it emerges as a blessing to find one area where a hi-five cannot obtain nor any group-hug be properly consummated. The analogy is to be found in the conduct expected in a gentlemen’s club in St. James’ or Pall Mall. I try to make my statues behave like new members, careful to come attired properly, according to the standards and conventions of the establishment. I mean them to be thus radically conformist. They join, or are admitted, on the grounds of their capacity to pipe down. They speak not of work but of amateur matters – and no conversation is closed to any member; a private club in which privacy is forbidden. Voices are seldom raised, or never. In this way my works seem to advocate a kind of “civic sleep.” Nothing is more noble or dignified than the sight of a man, in his club, splattered upon a leather armchair after lunch snoring with his companion in the prandial fray in a perfectly unconscious performance reminiscent of that famed number in the Pearl Fishers. I try to make my statues conduct themselves thus, for the edification and guidance of the broad masses, who are terribly overstimulated in this time of caffeine, coke and Kardashian. I detest what they call “civic vitality” and have nothing to do with “vibrancy” In short, I try to make sculpture that has all the retreating discretion of an exposed politician tendering his cabinet resignation in the 1950s.

There is reason to believe that my statue of John Witherspoon sited on the Campus of Princeton University has become something of a favourite there. It stands with many other works of sculpture, of course, but it is different. As a meeting-point it has gained a certain currency; there is a Henry Moore further along which is also a great rendez-vous. With the Moore piece, people say to one another “I’ll meet you at the Henry Moore.” But if they need to meet nearer the Chapel, say, they will not say “I’ll meet you at the Alexander Stoddart.” They arrange to meet “at the Witherspoon statue”. This is terribly important to note, for it tells of the fundamental difference between the normal piece of Public Art, and the Monument (which is the opposite of the Public Artwork.) The Monument is configured in its subject, where the Public Artwork is a matter of its author. Can you tell me, straight off the top of your head, who was the sculptor of Mount Rushmore, or the Christ at Rio, or even the Statue of Liberty? You cannot, and this is because the monumental imperative drives away the name of the maker in these wonderful cases. But that enlarged Baseball Bat? That Curtain of fabric slung across a canyon? That bird-man standing in the North of England? They are, above all, an Oldenberg, a Christo, a Gormley. Thus public art is not only private in truth, it is also highly egotistical. These things do not belong to culture, but merely to that thing which culture, unfortunately, has come to mean – which is “creativity”; a kind of arty itch that is scratched for relief but to no avail and maintains what they call, today, the “cultural industries” as a widening wound, festering. Monuments, and the remembrance of the Dead is the answer, and even the cure. As I always conclude, everything wretched, foolish, ugly, devious and selfish is at kernel an expression of the Will-to-Live. Everything noble, self-less, distinguished and kind; everything decorous, slow and peaceful; everything backward-looking, dun in colour, light in touch and not clumsy in manner; all church-music this side of a thousand guitars and “keyboard”, every objective glance and invitation declined, every march written by Elgar, every good thing – is at kernel an expression of the denial of the Will-to-Live. This is not my idea, but that of the philosopher Schopenhauer, whom I cannot thank enough. But I tell you, to accommodate the Copernican Shift of his thinking in that instance – to embrace the counter-intuitive horror of confessing the essential futility and even ignominy of existence, I had to brace myself. In the 1950s there were some pilots in England who thought they might try to break through the sound-barrier using the dive from a gigantic height. They found that time after time these young men were crashing their machines right into the ground ; not oming out of the dive, or not being able to. The radio contact was always so poor that no accounting for the effect could be managed. But then one of them who had been in a Spitfire in the Second War mentioned that once when he had been in a dive in a dog-fight situation he had the unaccountable urge to reverse the action of his joy-stick to bring himself out of it; that is to push, rather than pull the stick. The steering had become bumpy and undefined and he thought he was a goner. He got out of it by orthodox means and lived on. He wondered, now, if there was some mechanical reversal necessary to make the plane respond in the sound-barrier spectrum, and so, very bravely, he elected to attempt the dive, break through the sound barrier (as his comrades had all done before impact) and then push the stick forward at the critical time. He did this, mustering all his power of self-command and against every indication – and lo! up pulled the aircraft, in the nick of time. It took them some time to figure out the physics of this, but it became orthodoxy. In a somewhat more hair-raising way one has to reverse the joy-stick when reading the Sage of Frankfurt. You go through a barrier with a terrible bang, then you either drive a hole into the ground twenty feet down… or you come up with the air of the world crackling around you in a perpetual, following boom. It took me twenty years of reading, and re-reading, to do it. I mean, guys, can either of you ever imagine yourself saying, in defence of Manner of Man Magazine (as you go to the Bank Manager, for instance) “Manner of Man is a great thing Mr. Madoff! It sure denies the Will-to-Live!”

“It denies the Will-to-Live? Well gee, fella, here’s a couple of million to set the ball a-rollin’!”

Not likely – but I say that about my sculpture. This is something I ought to clam up about; I ought to agree that it’s all so life-affirmative. But art stills the Will, and the Will is, in its most vivid objectification, the Will-to-Live. Art opposes life. I’m sure I’ve said something like this above, but it seems so long ago!

 

During your career, you have made a number of profound statements; one that stands out is that “…memorials are often hastily erected.”  You are known to always speak the truth this notwithstanding, it is indeed a harsh reality, please explain your position.

I always dread the death of others who, in Scotland, are cursed with something of a profile, for there is so commonly the immediate effect, following their decease, of a noisy journalist telephoning me up when I am trying to force my second Martini down at the end of a tiring day with the “question” of a statue. It is hard to hear what he is garbling to one, in a crowded bar in Glasgow, and often as not the subject, being a sportsperson, will be entirely unknown to me. They will, they say, ‘phone me again tomorrow, and when they do I am in a rough mood and apt to speak my mind. So it happened that a couple of years ago a commentator called Bill McLaren, who specialised in Rugby (a game involving much pushing and grunting over a testicle-shaped ball) at last died after a long career with a microphone up his nose explaining with the crude instrument of the word just how – and even perhaps why – such antics were being rehearsed, time after time, on the various dismal parks of the Scottish Borders. We listened, from time to time, on the radio; he was “the voice of Rugby.” And because footer fans of all descriptions cleave unto these sports owing to a surfeit of sentimentality in their generally blameless hearts, and because the motivation to pay the extreme levels of attention to this, such as they failed to pay to the conjugation of French Verbs, for instance, is so much connected to their need to find a place to park their instinct to self-pity, it is a matter of inevitability that the Sports-deceased and the Statue will come together in a head-on collision on many an occasion. It invariably happens that, while all the occupants of the Statue are mashed to a pulp, those riding on the Sports-deceased get off with light bruising.

“No,” I said to the journalist, next morning. No, I wouldn’t be making a statue of Bill McLaren who was, as I learned, hardly cold in his morgue-drawer. The Nation of Scotland was in one of those “outpouring of grief” states; people on their knees before the gates of Murrayfield and Interflora working 24/7 to hire sufficient numbers of dumpers to pile the sacrificed flora before the national “Shrine of Rugby.” “Why not?” asked the journo, with a rising tone of indignation  – as though I had a duty to “cast this great man in bronze.” “Casting anything in bronze is the job of the foundry,” I replied. “I am a sculptor, and that involves, exclusively, papping huge tonnages of clay on to mighty armatures of welded steel

and trying to make a shape of it. The casting, or the carving, comes later. The job of the sculptor is to manipulate wet, cold, silent, “feminine” clay into shapes. I won’t make a statue of McLaren because it is not in my line.”

“What is in your line, then?” said the journalist.

“My line (I had to pause here, for I was suddenly uncertain what, if any, line I might be able to claim) – my line is in the making of monuments to people… who have risen against tyranny, salved the bleeding wounds of humanity, explained to us the workings of the outmost parts of the Universe, brought the Ixion’s Wheel of Willing to a grinding stop, made a thing of beauty. For every Sportsperson who gets a statue, so a poet is left unrepresented by this noble art.”

“Is Rugby not a thing of beauty?”

“Certainly not,” I responded. “If all modern art is uniformly ugly then there is no question that Rugby, Football, American Football, Ice-Hockey, Hockey, Golf, Darts and every sort of game must be a decided affront to the Muses Nine as they shield their eyes on Parnassus. I make,” I added, “an exception for Hurling since it receives a noble mention in the Irish literature from antiquity. But the rest is a festival of kicking and biting. Can you honestly equate, in terms of silent control, purity of outline and just disposition of mass the Three Graces of Canova with the shit-smeared hurdies of a twice life-size, tooth-spitting Orc from Peebles who has difficulty seeing his compatriots owing to the fact he can hardly see over his own collar-bones.”

You can imagine that the patience of the interviewer was running a little thin. “So you’ll not be making a statue of the most beloved man in Scottish history?” accused the journalist. “You’ve hit the nail on the head,” I told him – and then I made the mistake of driving the argument home. After he had recorded this in the newspapers I quickly became, for a few days at least, the Most Hated Man in Scotland.

Here is what I said: The erection of statues in indecent haste is a sign of a society sunk in sentimentality and cynicism. Although I am a great believer in expedition when a decision is made, yet I loathe the reflexive zeal with which the idea of the statue is instantly aired – for this conceptualising is nothing other than a representation of the incapacity of the advocates to accommodate themselves to the fact of the death of the subject. They seek a statue (or at least talk of a statue) in a futile effort to make it so that Bill (first-name terms, you see) is “still with us.” They think of their statue (it is always their’s, never the sculptor’s) usually set at ground level so that it will be “of the people” and able to be pawed by the pilgrims in adoration. Next they will imagine themselves lined up beside it, hugging its turd-coloured shoulders, larking about as their photographs are taken in its company. On parting they may dispose of their chewing-gum upon its nose, for their appetites have been sated and their attention is drawn to the next piece of stimulus. They speak and rage about this statue most vocally when the subject is still unburied (or burned) for it is not a proposal of distinction but a cry for help. It is part of the fear and loathing of the state of non-being which is characteristic of Barbarian peoples but nowhere to be encountered amongst the truly civilised peoples of the world by which I mean principally the Buddhists and Hindoos. They know, and they are helped in this by their saints and detailed scriptures, that not-being is our natural state. They make statues, just as the mighty Victorians did, to fix the subject not in a pseudo life, but in death – and this is why taste abounds there. But when we want to make Bill to keep him “in among us” – then we get kitsch, and kitsch (America take note) is the curse and plaque of modernised culture.

“So one never erects statues to people alive or recently dead,” I told the journalist – but he was already typing up his copy and paying scant attention to these niceties. Yet I went on, and this is where I went wrong.

“One ought to wait at least thirty years until a statue is even considered. This is done for good reason – for the raising of a statue should not be done on our decision, but rather by the command of posterity. Those who seek a quick statue do so because posterity cannot be trusted to effect the memorial. Statues of the living, or the recently dead, are done by people of dubious culture who cannot conceive of themselves as represented in those yet-to-be-born, and thus rush forward, in their individualistic isolation, to acquire the effect (the statue) for the titillation of their own eyes. They cannot begin to appreciate that their eyes, if they have culture, are present in those to come. Thus, because they are selfish they are also not nice. You see how ethics and aesthetics converge? Kant told us this, and all children do too when they like to be baby-sat by a pretty teenager. A terrible fact, in fact.

Now the journalist is itching to get off the blower, leaning on his desk in despair, periodically making chat-chat gestures with his fingers to his grubby confederates in the smoke-free office and rolling his eyes northwards. “In fact, “I continue, “one can be certain, from the statue-test, of a man’s claim to proper old High Church Toryism by his attitude to the statue and its timing.”

Those who put up statues of living subjects are found in the regimes of horror, from tin-pot dictators in Arabian States, to Stalinisers and monstrous North Koreans. We also find it in liberal democracies where the present is valorised and the past deplored. Fascinatingly, however, we find it very hard to imagine a full-size statue of the worst of people, Adolf Hitler. In this (horror of horrors) perhaps we detect a modicum of taste in the Paradigm Devil. But it is terribly indicative of a truth about a certain lady that she did not baulk at being present with (and even I believe unveiling one of them) a statue of herself – with which single gesture Margaret Thatcher excluded herself from the description “Conservative” – either with a small or a large C. Nelson Mandela was also guilty of this; unveiling his own statue. What depths has our time sunk to, when a subject sees his own monumental image. What possible expression can be admitted on to his face as the veil falls? Surprise? Pretended modesty? Soaring transcendence? Vindication? Or the cold stare of art-criticism? And how does he feel when he thinks, during sudden sleeplessness on a frightful February night of sleet and wind, of his brazen simulacrum grinning away over the deserted streets? I’ll tell you how he feels; like the rugby-fan who wants Bill back, so this kind of imperator takes tremendous comfort to know that, even at this horrible hour, he is standing watch! For the dynamic type; the thruster, the innovator, the “creative” forward-looker has one thing in him he really regrets, which is a tendency to fall asleep. This quasi-death (Hypnos is brother to Thanatos) is a matter of shame for him, so the statue stands testimony to his intention, if not his ability, to remain ever-vigilant. Of course Thatcher was said to be a 3- 4-hour a night sleeper – which speaks volumes in itself. But all the great minds and all the true conservatives are long and deep sleepers; the brain is the only organ that requires sleep and if it is so nourished, so its special functions – to lead the bearer in the paths of knowledge and righteousness – will be the more effectively discharged.

“So I cannot bring myself to consider, for a moment, putting the noble art of sculpture to the service of memorialising, so suddenly, one who spent his life describing the deeds and concerns of a mob of boys running up and down a football pitch trying to tear the shorts off one another.” This was a terrible mistake – but I was warm to my subject, Nic, and in a kind of flow. Thus it spread throughout the Scottish news-channels that I was an evil beast, and some horrible communications were received. At no time had I doubted the great talents, within his field, of the estimable Bill McLaren. I simply found the field insignificant. And yes, now that some years have passed, there is, according to the posterity test, no mighty clamour for a statue of this man, as I predicted. But over a hundred years on a statue of James Clerk Maxwell is undoubted in its mandate.

Quickly, however, the journalists (who are at war with each other) divided, and soon I was being quietly applauded for standing up to the tsunami of schmaltz we are expected to placate. An online journo commenced with the headline “The Most Hated Man in Scotland – and Why he should be Cloned.” I was to be replicated and posted about the various communities of Scotland as a bastion against kitschy sentimentalism! And then, at a Gala Performance in Edinburgh by the students of the Royal College of Music and Drama, the then Minister for

Education came up to me, embraced me in full view of the assembled and suddenly silent foyer, and whispered into my ear “Sandy, I can’t say this, but Thank You.” Why couldn’t he say it? We live, in taste terms, in a climate of fear.

 

What are your feelings about the current state of art and architecture education?

The thoughts I have when I think of the current state of art and architecture education differ from the feelings I have about it. I think there is great trouble in this sphere – a trouble that might not be rectified; the damage done amounts to an extinction-event. My feelings, on the other hand, are more simply put. I feel, when I think of a contemporary Art School, that I cannot eat as much as I would like to vomit. Let’s return to the thinking.

In the old days, even up until the later 1970s in this country, one went to Art School to learn to paint or sculpt, and to draw in the first place, and then draw again. Drawing was the basic action of the Art School and the floorboards of the studios were black with a filling of charcoal-dust mixed with erasor-rubber. There was a perfume of turpentine throughout the building and the aroma of every sort of tobacco-product imaginable. The janitors smelt sweetly of alcohol and the place was filled with a “dim religious light” in which the plaster-casts, the votive focus of the establishment, ruled in silent dominion. It was around these plaster copies from antiquity that every local and temporal endeavour was pursued – even if scant notice was taken of them. Some time in the earlier century their dominion had been set somewhat aside by the growing command of the living model, and once the Summer of Love was upon us the “nudity imperative” had gained the day, so that the gods in the cast-corridors became recessive; their nudity was mitigated by art, and a quest for the real and the moving was in hand. The Film Societies began to prosper, and the worst students in the year began to profess an “interest in photography.” Yet the casts were still respected, if no longer revered, and any student who wished to take a stool up, and a board, to sit in lengthy study of the great mystery of what they demonstrated might be still accommodated within the curricular run of things. He would be increasingly alone, of course, and shortly to be mocked – but there still existed a level of formalism sufficient to admit that shape was handsomely controlled in these objects, and even “spatial relationships” decently disposed. I mean, there was still a “tridentine” understanding that it was the exclusive responsibility of the artist to take account of the look (the percept) of the world, and to pay special attention to those who had “looked” the world fully in the eye in past time, so that their example might be followed and this crucial prosecution of the appearance of things be continued, and continued, every day for ever, like the Mass, sung the same in Norway in 1200 AD as in Washington in 1900 AD. People would still, at that time, refer to past students, like John Byrne for instance, who could “draw like an angel.” Indeed, this moral dimension to the act of drawing (that it is somehow angelic and beatitudinous) was not yet a kind of sin to hold to or even contemplate. Thus Art Schools in the 70s still had that delightful admixture of bohemianism (modest disruptionism and agreeable-because-mitigated mischief) and responsibility. It was the tail-end of the long tour of duty that began, in Britain, with the institution of the Government Schools of Art and Design, set up by Prince Albert, Victoria’s Consort. His original idea? - that a training in the fine arts might aid the promotion and refinement of the manufactures of the nation – and instrumentalist as that sounds, the facts relate a history of the flourishing of pure, redundant art in the wake of that intention. The record of the painter Joseph Noel Paton is very telling; he started as a student indentured to the thread-manufacture in Paisley, designing for the textile trade in the local School. He finished as Limner in Ordinary to Queen Victoria, and the grand old man of Scottish easel-painting. His forte was the depiction of Fairyland.

Under the old system the student learned to paint under a regime of training. This means that he subjected himself to a rule, extant in the establishment, which was to save the student from his errors and allow him to become so free from himself as to permit the emergence, under his own very hand, of visual effects the likes of which he could not, in his wildest dreams, imagine himself producing in normal, untrained circumstances. Above all, by the imposition of a strict training regime he experienced the redeeming sensation of being oppressed by art and thus made into a man, much as one who enlists in the French Foreign Legion attains the same moral seriousness through the ritual mortifications employed by that sterling Force (slow marching, fastidious grooming, the learning of French as the sole language of communication and enforced song-singing – this last the most apposite to my line of argument). And at the end of this time of training the student gets away with a Diploma of Art, a qualification of great distinction which carries no weight at all, simply because those with a DA did paintings that were a thousand times more interesting than the two letters ( a D and an A) which they could clap to the arse of their name if they felt so vain as to do so. The DA was utterly incidental to their work, which had begun some time during, or shortly after, their departure from Art School. But in the modern time, when the great decline started, the Art Student began going to Art School because there he could attain a University Degree – without having to go to University. This amounted to a tremendous wheeze, for in this way a real thicko could be right up there with a preppy Cecil, and with a Degree under his belt he could then proceed on to get a real job – in marketing for instance, or in some “outreach” context, or in the Public Sector somewhere, doing a ton of “enablement” and raising huge amounts of “awareness” of “issues” where your “rights” are concerned. He never touched a brush again – and he didn’t much touch it during his student days either, for he was too involved in the Trotskyite Students’ Representative Council to attend to the petty-bourgeois displacement activity of drawing and painting and all its inherent class-betrayal. He was thus spat out of the new system a highly-qualified duffer unable even to sing in tune, far less paint a picture worth the candle. Needless to say this state of affairs did not benight the real Universities – nor indeed the Ballet Schools or the Music Academies. There you still had to have skill and knowledge.

Soon those in Art Schools one were increasingly required to be “conceptualist” – and this meant (and means) having no manual skill whatsoever, no power of representation by manual means, no capacity to forge the Nature-slaying link between the hand and the eye, no taste for the symphonic tradition, no interest in the poetry of William Morris (even William Morris) and only a positive aversion to becoming conduct of any sort, a loathing of those who can draw and a professed interest in “technology”. In tandem with this trend there grew up the Son of Frankenstein’s Monster known as “Creativity.” The C-word was adopted to counteract the embarrassing anachronism of the A-word (Art). It allowed people who were very obviously completely talentless and far from art to sit before computers all day long, as artists of a sort, tapping away about “creative energy” in Departments set up to foster their ballyhoo and “accessing” various budgets from local and national government to pay their salaries and pensions. God knows what, at the end of their lives, these people point to as the result of their “creativity”. Is there even one sketch – or was it all merely Activity, loudly protested, funded to the hilt and counted in a fantasy-tally of “creative industry revenue”? I think so. The most amazing thing about this caste of “workers” is that, as ideologues and conceptualists, they spend their days writing; as Schopenhauer said, “the word is the handmaiden of the concept.” But what they write is all rubbish; have you ever read any of it? Absolutely astounding waffle. They are told by their professors that they are doing philosophy, but no philosopher that I know has ever shown the slightest interest in this genre – for it is beneath contempt. They ignore it quite as the sounder elements in the Church of England ignore the Christian charismatic churches, or as physicians ignore claims that a crystal laid on a cancer can put the blight into remission.

There is an Art School worthy of the name in Stockholm, Sweden, and one or two elsewhere. Indeed, there is a growing call for such establishments in which one can discover how to look and learn; where one can enter hapless and come out capable of something. The Stockholm outfit has produced draughtsmen of tremendous capacity, doing drawings you wouldn’t believe could be done still. There is also a School in New York doing this. As the technical skills are plucked from the very edge of extinction there is great hope for the future recovery, too, of the necessary taste and sensibility that cultivates in tandem with such abilities. As yet I would say that a proper, fully-developed comprehension of the cultural problem has not been adequately considered in these admirable establishments. For instance, it is permitted within them for the students to wear denim and trainer shoes. There is a place for denim – in a chain-gang in Alabama, but not in an artist’s studio. Think corduroy, please, and a sound pair of tattered brogues. And smocks are not mandatory, as they should be. The smock is the single most important piece of an artist’s kit, for in wearing it he vaults the first moral hurdle – which is to mortify his sartorial pride, which is nothing less than himself paraded on his exterior in textile form. When I am doing the finest clay-work I wear a lady’s smock, the further to destroy any lingering confidence in my tigerly manhood which might cause pride to surge in my breast and ruin the look of what I’m trying to make. And I have seen a student from Stockholm drawing superb accounts of electric guitars. Why did the school not drum into this boy the knowledge that the electric guitar is nothing other than the tuning-fork of the Devil herself? So there is some distance yet to be travelled before we can be certain that the general culture has been set on the path of recovery – but I’m certain that these small struggling schools are the hope. The drawing is the thing – both from casts and the living model. They need to learn, however, that when drawing the living model one must account for the genitalia in very vague terms, if at all. Too many life-drawings in the modern academies are hyper-gonadal, in that they record the genitals at life-size and in the tones of life (always darker) so that these studies seem to “star” the tackle. What the enlightened old schools did was to let the students understand that the genitals, being the seat of everything in Nature, require in art to be seriously piped down. This was not done because the old tutors were embarrassed! They taught their students the idea of the visual concert, and for this reason also recommended that the faces of the models were rendered similarly. It is not for nothing that Mr. Baboon has instructed Mother Nature to paint his face in the same colours as those which blossom on the business-end of Mrs. Baboon in her season; there is a Pact of Steel between the face and the fundament which is the pride and security of the animal kingdom. The short beard, incidentally, is nothing more than an embassy of the genitals posted out, far to the north, in an exposed situation. Again, Schopenhauer is very good on this matter; “The beard, being half a mask, should be outlawed by the police. Further, being a sexual symbol planted firmly in the face, it is also obscene. This is why women like it.” But of course women don’t like a beard, so he’s wrong there. Schopenhauer’s misogyny is the fly calculated to spoil his ointment – so that his Gospel can be easily ditched, as it has been.

If I ran an Art School I would set in place the following institution; that male homosexual students would be forbidden to draw boys, and that female homosexual students would be forbidden to draw girls. I would forbid male heterosexual students from painting girls, and female heterosexual students from painting boys. There. Now nobody would be drawing what they fancy and no study would be entitled “Xavier”, or “Mandy”. And I should re-institute the jock-strap for male models as a humanitarian act liable to win me the Nobel Peace Prize.


 
You could have your portrait painting by anyone of anytime in history who would it be and why?

If I could be portrayed by any artist, from any time, I should choose Sir George Reid, who lived from 1841 to 1913. He was a modest, hard-working, superbly accomplished painter who took up the portrait-painting slack in the latter part of the 19th century in Scotland. His finest portrait is that of the scientist Peter Guthrie Tait which hangs in the vestibule of the Royal Society of Edinburgh. I was looking at it again yesterday and cannot believe what it does.




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